Professor of international law Al Gillespie joins Emile Donovan to explain how the CIA came to its finding, and why they had jurisdiction to make a claim.

The nuanced finding suggests the agency believes the totality of evidence makes a lab origin more likely than a natural origin.

The problem for the lab-leak position is that the U.S. has never had access to the Wuhan lab and has thus been unable to reach a definitive answer for more than five years. Now that the CIA has at last come to a conclusion, not all scientists are sold on what it has reported, seeing the results as thinly scientifically sourced.